It is not illegal immigrant, but rather illegal alien. One does not immigrate illegally, this implies the lack of legal procedure, and/or respect for a countries laws. If one is immigrating then it implies going through the proper channels and laws to achieve the desired results.
If you are here in this country illegally then you are a lawbreaker and should be thrown in jail to serve time then deported. If you come here through legal channels and try to be legal then good, and I say more power to you.
The only way to stem the illegal tide of aliens is for them to get a backbone and arm themselves to take back their country. Once they remove the corruption then they can start to look for industry to help the unemployment. Instead of relying on handouts from other countries that go into the pockets of the elite, then they can start to use that money to rebuild their own country and make it something.
Just as with many countries though mexico is lazy and does not want to risk their own lives to secure freedom and safety. They would rather sponge off other countries and let someone else do the dirty work for them. If the American military formed up and rolled across the boarder to clean out the bad guys in mexico they would all cheer until it was done then they would demand us out of the country.
None of the illegal aliens would lift a finger to help secure their country, why should they? Sense they get free handouts here and don’t have to do anything but vote for the social-ists who will give them more.
opaww
Monday, May 10, 2010
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
Do you Really support the Second Amendment Part 2
Rifled barrels = Actually dates as far back at the 15th century but was not really produced until the 18th century. Due to the complexities of producing the rifling. During the revolutionary war for independence we saw the first real use of rifled barrels in muskets. Where marksman (snipers) was given rifled barreled muskets to use against the enemy.
Flintlock = dates some place around 1635 where the need for faster and reliable firing of weapons had a need.
Percussion cap = 1842 where again the need for faster and more reliable firing of small arms was needed.
Metallic case cartridges = was introduced around 1845
Revolvers = has a related history dating as far back as 1597 with the revolving arquebus produced by Hans Stopler, but the real leader in advanced forearms design was Samuel Colt with his 1836 patented designed revolver which enjoyed a lot of new innovations over the years sense.
Lever action rifles = actually dates back to around 1848 but saw no real popularity until right around 1860
Semi automatic weapons = can be dated back to 1885 with Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher’s Model 85 semi automatic rifle which spurned other designs and innovations in shot guns, rifles, and handguns.
Full automatic weapons = Actually are dated back to 1862 and are directly related to the Gatling gun.
SURPRISE full Automatic weapons were never against the law for individual citizens to buy, own, and use and still are not against the law. Though in 1934 congress passed the National Firearms Act, effectively placing a tax on manufacturing and transfer of certain firearms and full auto weapons fell under this bogus attempt at restricting personal ownership.
Just what is this about you might be saying? Well it has to do with a train of belief in many circles where some people believe that our founders had no insight into the advancements of modern weapons. You see they were smart men, some were very educated, and most had the foresight to know that weapons would advance in function, design, and lethality.
At no time in our history until the 1934 was there any restrictions place on buying selling, owning, and/or using any small arms by the citizens of this country. I had a copy of and link to the actual minutes of the meeting in congress back in 1932 where they were trying to figure out how to ban ownership, and use of private owned weapons. The Unites States Attorney General then shot down ever conceived scam to ban guns for civilian ownership based on Constitutional grounds except the taxing of them under the interstate commerce clause. Which is technically not a ban but it gave the BATF the authority to deny you the tax stamp on certain weapons they felt one should not own.
Even at that meeting of congress in 1932 one of the reasons for the ban on private gun ownership was racist in nature, where one congressman stated and it is on record, that the worst thing we can do is to let a black man (ni_ _ _r) have a pistol and a bottle of whisky on a train.
Up until the usurping of the governments power over constitutional gun rights in 1934 one could order a full automatic Thompson sub-machine gun or even a BAR right from the Sears and Roebuck catalog and it would be mailed right to you. Many general stores had them on the shelf.
Most of the fears of gun ownership stem from the government fearful of the populist. They use any and all excuses to take from you a GOD given right, backed by our Bill of Rights. Hollywood is no friend to the Bill of Rights unless some restriction is directly placed on them but for the common citizen they support any attempt to deny you of something that was given by a higher authority then them, the government or mankind.
A lot of what we have today and basically sense the early 1900’s is a lack of belief in a GOD who granted us these rights. Where man is steadily renouncing even the thought of a higher being, who is more important and powerful then man himself, we are running into the train of thought that our Second Amendment rights was not granted by such a being but rather by the all powerful government and they can choose to take that right any time they want.
opaww
Flintlock = dates some place around 1635 where the need for faster and reliable firing of weapons had a need.
Percussion cap = 1842 where again the need for faster and more reliable firing of small arms was needed.
Metallic case cartridges = was introduced around 1845
Revolvers = has a related history dating as far back as 1597 with the revolving arquebus produced by Hans Stopler, but the real leader in advanced forearms design was Samuel Colt with his 1836 patented designed revolver which enjoyed a lot of new innovations over the years sense.
Lever action rifles = actually dates back to around 1848 but saw no real popularity until right around 1860
Semi automatic weapons = can be dated back to 1885 with Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher’s Model 85 semi automatic rifle which spurned other designs and innovations in shot guns, rifles, and handguns.
Full automatic weapons = Actually are dated back to 1862 and are directly related to the Gatling gun.
SURPRISE full Automatic weapons were never against the law for individual citizens to buy, own, and use and still are not against the law. Though in 1934 congress passed the National Firearms Act, effectively placing a tax on manufacturing and transfer of certain firearms and full auto weapons fell under this bogus attempt at restricting personal ownership.
Just what is this about you might be saying? Well it has to do with a train of belief in many circles where some people believe that our founders had no insight into the advancements of modern weapons. You see they were smart men, some were very educated, and most had the foresight to know that weapons would advance in function, design, and lethality.
At no time in our history until the 1934 was there any restrictions place on buying selling, owning, and/or using any small arms by the citizens of this country. I had a copy of and link to the actual minutes of the meeting in congress back in 1932 where they were trying to figure out how to ban ownership, and use of private owned weapons. The Unites States Attorney General then shot down ever conceived scam to ban guns for civilian ownership based on Constitutional grounds except the taxing of them under the interstate commerce clause. Which is technically not a ban but it gave the BATF the authority to deny you the tax stamp on certain weapons they felt one should not own.
Even at that meeting of congress in 1932 one of the reasons for the ban on private gun ownership was racist in nature, where one congressman stated and it is on record, that the worst thing we can do is to let a black man (ni_ _ _r) have a pistol and a bottle of whisky on a train.
Up until the usurping of the governments power over constitutional gun rights in 1934 one could order a full automatic Thompson sub-machine gun or even a BAR right from the Sears and Roebuck catalog and it would be mailed right to you. Many general stores had them on the shelf.
Most of the fears of gun ownership stem from the government fearful of the populist. They use any and all excuses to take from you a GOD given right, backed by our Bill of Rights. Hollywood is no friend to the Bill of Rights unless some restriction is directly placed on them but for the common citizen they support any attempt to deny you of something that was given by a higher authority then them, the government or mankind.
A lot of what we have today and basically sense the early 1900’s is a lack of belief in a GOD who granted us these rights. Where man is steadily renouncing even the thought of a higher being, who is more important and powerful then man himself, we are running into the train of thought that our Second Amendment rights was not granted by such a being but rather by the all powerful government and they can choose to take that right any time they want.
opaww
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Do you really support the Second Amendment?
When anyone says will I support the Second Amendment but…they are really saying that they do not in fact support the Second Amendment because the Second Amendment is unconditional not like the other rights.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Here we have Amendment I, show me where it says that no one can restrict any of these rights? It plainly says “Congress shall not”, putting a restriction on a given federal government body “the Congress”. No restrictions on the state at all so we had to have a 14th Amendment to stop states from enacting laws denying the rights as recognized by our First Amendment.
Contrary to popular opinion the right to yell fire in a crowded theater is not a federal law, restriction nor even a mandate. But comes from state laws not actually restricting the actual speech but rather placing consequences for the words you utter that may cause harm to body or reputation (slander) of persons. Even here we must still use due process of law before we can find someone guilty of an offence of free speech, or any of the listed rights in the First Amendment.
AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Second Amendment has no restrictions place on it, as does the First Amendment. It clearly states, “Shall not be infringed”, this alone is the most powerful statement in the whole of the Second Amendment. It does not say shall not be infringed “except”, it does not say shall not be infringed by Congress, nor just the brady bunch. It says “shall not be infringed” clearly restricting any infringement by anyone, except through due process of law.
The Second Amendment needs no protection of the 14th Amendment because it is automatically incorporated to any and all governing bodies. The Bill of Rights was created to restrict government from violating the listed rights and this included all forms of government in the USA unless specified other wise as is in the First Amendment.
Due process of law was always held to mean until sentence was served in full then all rights were restored fully. In the middle of the 20th century we seen the advent of new meanings calling some violations of law to be felony’s and the restrictions of life time punishment for the felony’s to continue well after the time was served.
Today we see some rights restored by the courts except the Second Amendment. Very few have ever had their Second Amendment rights restored even after a court ruled in their favor. The BATFU still holds the right to deny you the Second Amendment rights regardless if a court rules to give it back to you.
It was never once a felon always a felon, until the middle of the 20th century and the need of socialists to control the people of this country and for them to decide what rights you should have. Then we saw the corruption of the meaning and miss-interpretation of the wording of the rights so they could get people to believe it was all wrong for 200 years.
Then we saw the adding of some laws as felons this continued until today where almost everything is a felony, or can be made into a felony for convenience. The rights everyone had is slowly being eroded to a point where most people just shrug their shoulders and say it does not effect me or there is nothing I can do about it. Removing a right is simple today sense most people will not band together and stop it.
If you say, “I support the Second Amendment except,” you are leading more credence to the division of our power to stop further restrictions on rights. Once rights are gone it takes spilling of blood and/or dam near a miracle to get them back.
opaww
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Here we have Amendment I, show me where it says that no one can restrict any of these rights? It plainly says “Congress shall not”, putting a restriction on a given federal government body “the Congress”. No restrictions on the state at all so we had to have a 14th Amendment to stop states from enacting laws denying the rights as recognized by our First Amendment.
Contrary to popular opinion the right to yell fire in a crowded theater is not a federal law, restriction nor even a mandate. But comes from state laws not actually restricting the actual speech but rather placing consequences for the words you utter that may cause harm to body or reputation (slander) of persons. Even here we must still use due process of law before we can find someone guilty of an offence of free speech, or any of the listed rights in the First Amendment.
AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Second Amendment has no restrictions place on it, as does the First Amendment. It clearly states, “Shall not be infringed”, this alone is the most powerful statement in the whole of the Second Amendment. It does not say shall not be infringed “except”, it does not say shall not be infringed by Congress, nor just the brady bunch. It says “shall not be infringed” clearly restricting any infringement by anyone, except through due process of law.
The Second Amendment needs no protection of the 14th Amendment because it is automatically incorporated to any and all governing bodies. The Bill of Rights was created to restrict government from violating the listed rights and this included all forms of government in the USA unless specified other wise as is in the First Amendment.
Due process of law was always held to mean until sentence was served in full then all rights were restored fully. In the middle of the 20th century we seen the advent of new meanings calling some violations of law to be felony’s and the restrictions of life time punishment for the felony’s to continue well after the time was served.
Today we see some rights restored by the courts except the Second Amendment. Very few have ever had their Second Amendment rights restored even after a court ruled in their favor. The BATFU still holds the right to deny you the Second Amendment rights regardless if a court rules to give it back to you.
It was never once a felon always a felon, until the middle of the 20th century and the need of socialists to control the people of this country and for them to decide what rights you should have. Then we saw the corruption of the meaning and miss-interpretation of the wording of the rights so they could get people to believe it was all wrong for 200 years.
Then we saw the adding of some laws as felons this continued until today where almost everything is a felony, or can be made into a felony for convenience. The rights everyone had is slowly being eroded to a point where most people just shrug their shoulders and say it does not effect me or there is nothing I can do about it. Removing a right is simple today sense most people will not band together and stop it.
If you say, “I support the Second Amendment except,” you are leading more credence to the division of our power to stop further restrictions on rights. Once rights are gone it takes spilling of blood and/or dam near a miracle to get them back.
opaww
Monday, August 31, 2009
Is it possible?
Some tend to think nothing is wrong with our country and everything is hunky dory. Others might argue that many things are wrong with America and we are being flushed down the toilet. Depending on how one looks at everything will dictate how one believes. If you’re a left leaning socialist democrat then everything is great. If you’re a right leaning conservative then we are in the end times with hell in America.
Not to rain on any-ones parade but America is in a sinkhole and the only way to get us out is nothing short of a revolt against the tyrants that have, and are putting us there.
Capitalism
The people, who complain that capitalism is wrong and criminal, are a can short of a full six-pack. Capitalism has made this country great, raising above all the rest of the world. A person, who argues against Capitalism, is for the most part lazy asses who want what everyone has without working for it.
The use of such words like racist, hate mongering, slavery, ect. play a part in scaring people into following the beliefs of the lazy in trashing our Capitalist based country. They are afraid to be tagged as anything but a sheep. I got news for the lazy, and that is Capitalism did not create slavery, man did.
If Capitalism is so wrong then why is it that the rest of the world wants our money? If we eliminate Capitalism then the rest of the world will starve, sense we Americans are the soul supporters of many lazy countries.
Gun Control
Well one can see that the world peace has not materialized yet even though much of the world does not allow its slaves to own firearms. With the ever pressing need for some in America to have everyone become a victim of violence by the government, we can see the need to remain armed and vigilant at all times.
If this socialist administration has it’s way we Americans will become the world slaves, where by we work to support the nasty habits of foreign countries, which we basically do now anyway. Being citizens armed and vigilant is the last bearer against total slavery of the masses.
Some where around 125,000,000 to 150,000,000 people in the 20th century alone have been killed in countries that would not allow it’s citizens to be armed for defense. Some very nasty tyrants have raised their ugly heads in many of them same countries.
Education
Some place with in the 20th century we lost the American education of our children, replacing it with diversity, non-secular, humanistic, victimization teachings of our very future.
We no longer produce Americans, who are educated in the fine art of being American, and proud, but rather we have become pussyafied men who are more women then women are. Women have become the dominant alpha males in our society, extolling the virtues of castrating the once male figures. This has been taught with in our schools for many long years.
Some of it creeping in the teachings here and there, very slowly so as to not raise red flags to alarm the people. I just read yesterday where a young girl who was a member of her High School ROTC class, got suspended from school for 6 days in Florida for chastising a student wiring a Burka, and refusing to stand and salute the American flag and refusing to say the pledge of allegiance. Why? Because she had hurt the feelys of someone else who does not support America but is here leaching off our fruits of labor.
Freedom of Speech
Well it seems that soon we can kiss this one good by; sense the fairness doctrine will put undue requirements on rightwing speech. Requiring an apposing view to be published, or broadcast, where it may be none approved speech by the current administration. Not to mention that many would be protectors of rights out there, want to shut down any thing that speaks against the socialist doctrines of this current cesspool of our government.
The left leaning socialist has enough hate mongers of the American way of life that they do not need to force the right wing into allowing an apposing view on their broadcasts. This fairness doctrine does not support the same requirements for the socialist talk shows nor printed views. So it is not really a fairness doctrine but rather a suppression of right wing free speech.
Supporting the fairness doctrine is none other then the Authorized journalists from cnn, abc, cbs, and nbc. Sense it will give then authority over any news that they wish to drown us out of.
Freedom of religion
Don’t bet on it, you will loose your hard earned money. Oops sorry the government is taking that anyway, but you will have IOU’s in its place. As was posted on the forum the other day we see where a religious hating judge has ordered a 10 year old girl to attend public school because she defends her beliefs to vigorously. In other words you can go to church but keep your mouth shout about your beliefs unless it is wicca, witchcraft, muslim, or Kwanzaa, then you can say all you want.
Don’t even think about displaying your beliefs in a given religion if it has to do with Christianity, or Judaism in school, they have and will make you stop and/or suspend you for it. Do not attack other religions of the world because you will be hung out to dry by the very self same people who some times sit next to you in your church.
Some professed Christian religions embrace acceptance of occults and non-secular beliefs with in their very buildings they are suppose to be worshiping Christ in. Some even have stopped the reference to Christ, so as to not offend others of diversity.
We even see an acceptance of sin within these self same churches; because it would be hate mongering to not allow a fag, child molester to not be a priest, preacher, or deacon. When it is clear that “GOD” (was I just political incorrect), (let me fix the politically incorrect and make it DOG so as to not offend) that homosexuality was a sin of one of the worst kinds.
Corrupt government
This is hard sense all corruption is in the eyes of the beholder, however we see this administration sh*t deep in forced change toward socialism. This is a corruption of the worst kind sense we Americans are not a socialist state.
We might ask ourselves how they can achieve this belief in socialism. The only way is through force, and threats. If you choose to speak out against a political meeting of this administration, then you are a racist, terrorist, right wing Christian, their words not mine.
Now comes the part everyone does not want to see. The forced part, where we will not have any choices left to us. In order for this administration to gain absolute power they must fill every hole in government with likeminded ass wipes, (Have we seen this yet?).
Then they must amass a force, which will enforce the will of the government on the citizens, (private Army anyone).
Lets not forget the corruption of the meanings of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to convince everyone that they and our founders were wrong, (living documents).
Create panic to use the executive power to suspend what rights they can, (maybe a flu like fear).
Make everything against the authority of the government, by make everyone not to your liking a potential terrorist, (Homoland Insecurity).
Restrict Americans in their travels and just what they can buy, (No fly, No buy list).
Gain control of our money and banks, (maybe pass a law giving full access of your bank accounts to the government, (Government run health care H.R. 3200)).
Though there are a few more steps in the process, the last is proclaim yourself as supreme leader of America and suspend all elections under what ever excuses you can find. (This has not happened yet but stand by).
opaww
Not to rain on any-ones parade but America is in a sinkhole and the only way to get us out is nothing short of a revolt against the tyrants that have, and are putting us there.
Capitalism
The people, who complain that capitalism is wrong and criminal, are a can short of a full six-pack. Capitalism has made this country great, raising above all the rest of the world. A person, who argues against Capitalism, is for the most part lazy asses who want what everyone has without working for it.
The use of such words like racist, hate mongering, slavery, ect. play a part in scaring people into following the beliefs of the lazy in trashing our Capitalist based country. They are afraid to be tagged as anything but a sheep. I got news for the lazy, and that is Capitalism did not create slavery, man did.
If Capitalism is so wrong then why is it that the rest of the world wants our money? If we eliminate Capitalism then the rest of the world will starve, sense we Americans are the soul supporters of many lazy countries.
Gun Control
Well one can see that the world peace has not materialized yet even though much of the world does not allow its slaves to own firearms. With the ever pressing need for some in America to have everyone become a victim of violence by the government, we can see the need to remain armed and vigilant at all times.
If this socialist administration has it’s way we Americans will become the world slaves, where by we work to support the nasty habits of foreign countries, which we basically do now anyway. Being citizens armed and vigilant is the last bearer against total slavery of the masses.
Some where around 125,000,000 to 150,000,000 people in the 20th century alone have been killed in countries that would not allow it’s citizens to be armed for defense. Some very nasty tyrants have raised their ugly heads in many of them same countries.
Education
Some place with in the 20th century we lost the American education of our children, replacing it with diversity, non-secular, humanistic, victimization teachings of our very future.
We no longer produce Americans, who are educated in the fine art of being American, and proud, but rather we have become pussyafied men who are more women then women are. Women have become the dominant alpha males in our society, extolling the virtues of castrating the once male figures. This has been taught with in our schools for many long years.
Some of it creeping in the teachings here and there, very slowly so as to not raise red flags to alarm the people. I just read yesterday where a young girl who was a member of her High School ROTC class, got suspended from school for 6 days in Florida for chastising a student wiring a Burka, and refusing to stand and salute the American flag and refusing to say the pledge of allegiance. Why? Because she had hurt the feelys of someone else who does not support America but is here leaching off our fruits of labor.
Freedom of Speech
Well it seems that soon we can kiss this one good by; sense the fairness doctrine will put undue requirements on rightwing speech. Requiring an apposing view to be published, or broadcast, where it may be none approved speech by the current administration. Not to mention that many would be protectors of rights out there, want to shut down any thing that speaks against the socialist doctrines of this current cesspool of our government.
The left leaning socialist has enough hate mongers of the American way of life that they do not need to force the right wing into allowing an apposing view on their broadcasts. This fairness doctrine does not support the same requirements for the socialist talk shows nor printed views. So it is not really a fairness doctrine but rather a suppression of right wing free speech.
Supporting the fairness doctrine is none other then the Authorized journalists from cnn, abc, cbs, and nbc. Sense it will give then authority over any news that they wish to drown us out of.
Freedom of religion
Don’t bet on it, you will loose your hard earned money. Oops sorry the government is taking that anyway, but you will have IOU’s in its place. As was posted on the forum the other day we see where a religious hating judge has ordered a 10 year old girl to attend public school because she defends her beliefs to vigorously. In other words you can go to church but keep your mouth shout about your beliefs unless it is wicca, witchcraft, muslim, or Kwanzaa, then you can say all you want.
Don’t even think about displaying your beliefs in a given religion if it has to do with Christianity, or Judaism in school, they have and will make you stop and/or suspend you for it. Do not attack other religions of the world because you will be hung out to dry by the very self same people who some times sit next to you in your church.
Some professed Christian religions embrace acceptance of occults and non-secular beliefs with in their very buildings they are suppose to be worshiping Christ in. Some even have stopped the reference to Christ, so as to not offend others of diversity.
We even see an acceptance of sin within these self same churches; because it would be hate mongering to not allow a fag, child molester to not be a priest, preacher, or deacon. When it is clear that “GOD” (was I just political incorrect), (let me fix the politically incorrect and make it DOG so as to not offend) that homosexuality was a sin of one of the worst kinds.
Corrupt government
This is hard sense all corruption is in the eyes of the beholder, however we see this administration sh*t deep in forced change toward socialism. This is a corruption of the worst kind sense we Americans are not a socialist state.
We might ask ourselves how they can achieve this belief in socialism. The only way is through force, and threats. If you choose to speak out against a political meeting of this administration, then you are a racist, terrorist, right wing Christian, their words not mine.
Now comes the part everyone does not want to see. The forced part, where we will not have any choices left to us. In order for this administration to gain absolute power they must fill every hole in government with likeminded ass wipes, (Have we seen this yet?).
Then they must amass a force, which will enforce the will of the government on the citizens, (private Army anyone).
Lets not forget the corruption of the meanings of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to convince everyone that they and our founders were wrong, (living documents).
Create panic to use the executive power to suspend what rights they can, (maybe a flu like fear).
Make everything against the authority of the government, by make everyone not to your liking a potential terrorist, (Homoland Insecurity).
Restrict Americans in their travels and just what they can buy, (No fly, No buy list).
Gain control of our money and banks, (maybe pass a law giving full access of your bank accounts to the government, (Government run health care H.R. 3200)).
Though there are a few more steps in the process, the last is proclaim yourself as supreme leader of America and suspend all elections under what ever excuses you can find. (This has not happened yet but stand by).
opaww
Saturday, August 1, 2009
Records being kept
GUNnympho said, “Dude... I could go to the local sheriffs dept and they could easily tell me how many guns i have registered in my name. Sure the depth of class three firearms and silencers is more in depth.... but the papers filled out at the dealer don’t just sit in a filling cabinet.” http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f12/purchasing-my-first-firearm-15591/index2.html
This got me to thinking about something I read about just within the last few months, where a collage student was assigned to write and give a lecture about something that was a high profile issue in America now. So he picked the subject in support of guns on campus.
When giving his lecture he made no statement that could be construed as a threat, but his teacher reported him to school security and they whisked him into their office and grilled him like a common criminal. They also produced a list of guns he owned and demanded he tell them where they were, how they were stored, and other things about them that they had no need to know.
Now one might think well nothing here to be concerned about. But one should look at the fact that a collage campus security had a list of all the guns that he owned. Where did they get the list? From what I remember there was not enough time for them to go to each gun dealer and inquire about the purchased weapons by this person not to mention that school security is rent-a-cop with no authority to canvas any gun shop records.
A few years after the passing of the brady bill requiring a federal background check. I believe it was found that the governor of New Jersey was acquiring all weapons purchases information from the Background checks to keep and compile a national database with. I seem to remember some law suite I think by the NRA to put a stop to it and have the records destroyed. The case was won and this perpetrator of citizen disarmament was ordered to destroy the records and stop any further compiling of said lists.
Whether he complied or not I cannot say nor can I prove, but I tend to believe he did not. Here in Hardin county Kentucky the Sheriff was caught making his own files of people who applied for a CCWP, which is against state law. Legal action was brought against him; to stop and destroy all compiled records. Supposedly he complied but it is in question now sense my son applied and the Sheriff took 2 photos of him for the CCWP it is believed he is still compiling and keeping records of his own. A new legal action is about to be brought against him but he probably will blow this off as well. (Note) Only one photo is required for a CCWP here in Kentucky and sense the Sheriff was caught making the second photo for his record it is believed he is at it again.
I believe that some form of compiled records of what guns, who purchased them is being kept some place, possible on a local level or possible both federal and local. Can I prove it NO, but from these listed cases and some other things I have read about it leads me to believe it is possible.
opaww
This got me to thinking about something I read about just within the last few months, where a collage student was assigned to write and give a lecture about something that was a high profile issue in America now. So he picked the subject in support of guns on campus.
When giving his lecture he made no statement that could be construed as a threat, but his teacher reported him to school security and they whisked him into their office and grilled him like a common criminal. They also produced a list of guns he owned and demanded he tell them where they were, how they were stored, and other things about them that they had no need to know.
Now one might think well nothing here to be concerned about. But one should look at the fact that a collage campus security had a list of all the guns that he owned. Where did they get the list? From what I remember there was not enough time for them to go to each gun dealer and inquire about the purchased weapons by this person not to mention that school security is rent-a-cop with no authority to canvas any gun shop records.
A few years after the passing of the brady bill requiring a federal background check. I believe it was found that the governor of New Jersey was acquiring all weapons purchases information from the Background checks to keep and compile a national database with. I seem to remember some law suite I think by the NRA to put a stop to it and have the records destroyed. The case was won and this perpetrator of citizen disarmament was ordered to destroy the records and stop any further compiling of said lists.
Whether he complied or not I cannot say nor can I prove, but I tend to believe he did not. Here in Hardin county Kentucky the Sheriff was caught making his own files of people who applied for a CCWP, which is against state law. Legal action was brought against him; to stop and destroy all compiled records. Supposedly he complied but it is in question now sense my son applied and the Sheriff took 2 photos of him for the CCWP it is believed he is still compiling and keeping records of his own. A new legal action is about to be brought against him but he probably will blow this off as well. (Note) Only one photo is required for a CCWP here in Kentucky and sense the Sheriff was caught making the second photo for his record it is believed he is at it again.
I believe that some form of compiled records of what guns, who purchased them is being kept some place, possible on a local level or possible both federal and local. Can I prove it NO, but from these listed cases and some other things I have read about it leads me to believe it is possible.
opaww
Friday, July 10, 2009
Amices brief from 34 states Attorney Generals
As of right now there are 34 signatures on the Amices brief from 34 states Attorney Generals supporting the incorporation of the 14th amendment into the 2nd Amendment. One might think this is a good thing sense if the Supreme Court rules in favor of incorporation it will make each state the same. But really think about it, like an anti-gunner and see if it sounds so great.
With an incorporation of the 14th Amendment into the 2nd Amendment you now have all states that must abide by federal law and if the anti-gunners can get federal law passed restricting some form of gun control then each state will have to comply. Where if it is not incorporated then a state can tell the federal government to shove it.
Also consider this, that the Attorney General of commiefornia Jerry Brown has signed this brief in support of incorporation. Do not be so fast to say that Jerry Brown is a pro-gunner sense he has control of what is a legal firearm in commiefornia. The list of banned guns in commiefornia is longer then my arm, as the saying goes. So if an anti-gunner like Jerry Brown is supporting the incorporation then something must be wrong. Let us also consider that the brady bunch also wants this ruling of incorporation.
Let us not forget that the Scotus ruling in the case of Heller vs. D.C. was not the win that was spewed forth by some semi-pro-gun groups. It left the door open for reasonable restrictions with out actually defining these restrictions and anyone can say a total ban of everything but a S&W .22lr. Pistol is reasonable. Licensing of gun owners and each weapon can be considered reasonable in many eyes of socialism. This will depend on how the rulers in our governments see it; little input from the actual public will be almost nil.
With the miss guided Scotus ruling already in place, this ruling may just be the thing the anti-American/anti-gunners are waiting for. Largely because of the left undone and said of the Scotus ruling in Heller vs. D.C. With the 2nd Amendment stating, “Shall not infringe” and this meaning is quite clear to even a moron, we still have infringement being forced on us all the time under the guise of reasonable restrictions, and for public safety.
I see no place in the 2nd Amendment the authority to restrict this right in any way, shape, or form by any governing body whether it be local, county, state, or federal. I see no authority to allow reasonable restrictions for any cause at all. The issue of public safety is largely used as a form of authority to restrict a right that is absolute, when public safety has nothing to do with it. Weapons account for far less deaths and injuries then does Automobiles and yet automobiles are not protected by the Constitution. Also they are not under the over zealous attacks by the socialists in America.
Doctors have nearly a 12 to 1 ratio of accidental deaths compared to accidental gun deaths every year. But we don’t see the socialists screaming about banning Doctors. Auto’s have a ratio of 2 to 1 but we don’t see the over zealous cry by the socialists for their outright ban. If the socialists can affect a total ban on private weapons then I believe that all forms of private transportation will become their next target.
opaww
With an incorporation of the 14th Amendment into the 2nd Amendment you now have all states that must abide by federal law and if the anti-gunners can get federal law passed restricting some form of gun control then each state will have to comply. Where if it is not incorporated then a state can tell the federal government to shove it.
Also consider this, that the Attorney General of commiefornia Jerry Brown has signed this brief in support of incorporation. Do not be so fast to say that Jerry Brown is a pro-gunner sense he has control of what is a legal firearm in commiefornia. The list of banned guns in commiefornia is longer then my arm, as the saying goes. So if an anti-gunner like Jerry Brown is supporting the incorporation then something must be wrong. Let us also consider that the brady bunch also wants this ruling of incorporation.
Let us not forget that the Scotus ruling in the case of Heller vs. D.C. was not the win that was spewed forth by some semi-pro-gun groups. It left the door open for reasonable restrictions with out actually defining these restrictions and anyone can say a total ban of everything but a S&W .22lr. Pistol is reasonable. Licensing of gun owners and each weapon can be considered reasonable in many eyes of socialism. This will depend on how the rulers in our governments see it; little input from the actual public will be almost nil.
With the miss guided Scotus ruling already in place, this ruling may just be the thing the anti-American/anti-gunners are waiting for. Largely because of the left undone and said of the Scotus ruling in Heller vs. D.C. With the 2nd Amendment stating, “Shall not infringe” and this meaning is quite clear to even a moron, we still have infringement being forced on us all the time under the guise of reasonable restrictions, and for public safety.
I see no place in the 2nd Amendment the authority to restrict this right in any way, shape, or form by any governing body whether it be local, county, state, or federal. I see no authority to allow reasonable restrictions for any cause at all. The issue of public safety is largely used as a form of authority to restrict a right that is absolute, when public safety has nothing to do with it. Weapons account for far less deaths and injuries then does Automobiles and yet automobiles are not protected by the Constitution. Also they are not under the over zealous attacks by the socialists in America.
Doctors have nearly a 12 to 1 ratio of accidental deaths compared to accidental gun deaths every year. But we don’t see the socialists screaming about banning Doctors. Auto’s have a ratio of 2 to 1 but we don’t see the over zealous cry by the socialists for their outright ban. If the socialists can affect a total ban on private weapons then I believe that all forms of private transportation will become their next target.
opaww
Monday, July 6, 2009
False arrest
While reading, and thinking about what may or may not happen with our government regarding the outlook of it turning socialist and un-American I came away with another impression. This being just as dangerous to the American people as anything else.
False arrest under the pretence of falsified information, say you are an outspoken appoint of osamaobama and his ill begotten socialists in our government (I don’t know anyone who would do this though) and they want to put a muzzle on you. All that is required is for someone to say you need to be shut up. The feds take the ball from there and with the aid of the socialist supporting news media you will be found to be anything from a child molester to an out right white supremacy and maybe everything else in between.
Never having done anything more then voice your opinion and beliefs. If you are not shot and killing in the raid to quite you, you will be jailed without bond possibly and this amounts to guilty until proven innocent. Most of us little people have not the money to hire a high priced lawyer let alone even a lawyer of any type to defend us. In essence we will go to jail regardless, effectively muzzling any opposition speech.
The ability to get a fair trial will be null sense the socialist news media has all but proven your guilt to the world and most people will believe them without a second thought. Along with the very liberal socialist judges in place already I just don’t feel comfortable with getting set free.
This being a very real threat to freedom loving Americans we now can invision a use for the 200+ concentration camps (that we don’t have in America). Like many dictators of the past and present many people who are considered opposition just simply disappear never to heard from again. This socialist dictator in office will be no deferent, it just may take him a second term in office before he gets real pissy toward our rights to free speech.
Though some may view this as tin hat stuff or just won’t happen, it has a surreal feel to it and should not be taken lightly. Most times we ourselves will simply see it happening right in front of our noses. We have become complacent in listening to the news media and saying to ourselves that they must of done something wrong, why else would they have 50 armed men in full tactical gear to arrest this one person and 5 black helicopters flying over head?
This makes me look back to such incidents as Waco, Ruby Ridge and wander. Not wanting to be a conspiracy theorist with regard to these two situations, but if memory serves me right the news media had already sliced and diced them to the public before the shooting started.
With every arrest of any suspected criminal we have the news media perching on the bandwagon about the virtues and need for his arrest. As I see and listen to them flap their mouths off of just how bad this guy is the last thing we hear from them is a sarcastic remark about them possibly being innocent until a court says deferent.
So why even extol the virtues of this persons arrest if you do not know his guilt nor can absolutely prove his involvement in the act you say he is? I would have to say that it boils down to a socialist view by the news media, which is to lend credence to their want for power over the tiny American slaves.
opaww
False arrest under the pretence of falsified information, say you are an outspoken appoint of osamaobama and his ill begotten socialists in our government (I don’t know anyone who would do this though) and they want to put a muzzle on you. All that is required is for someone to say you need to be shut up. The feds take the ball from there and with the aid of the socialist supporting news media you will be found to be anything from a child molester to an out right white supremacy and maybe everything else in between.
Never having done anything more then voice your opinion and beliefs. If you are not shot and killing in the raid to quite you, you will be jailed without bond possibly and this amounts to guilty until proven innocent. Most of us little people have not the money to hire a high priced lawyer let alone even a lawyer of any type to defend us. In essence we will go to jail regardless, effectively muzzling any opposition speech.
The ability to get a fair trial will be null sense the socialist news media has all but proven your guilt to the world and most people will believe them without a second thought. Along with the very liberal socialist judges in place already I just don’t feel comfortable with getting set free.
This being a very real threat to freedom loving Americans we now can invision a use for the 200+ concentration camps (that we don’t have in America). Like many dictators of the past and present many people who are considered opposition just simply disappear never to heard from again. This socialist dictator in office will be no deferent, it just may take him a second term in office before he gets real pissy toward our rights to free speech.
Though some may view this as tin hat stuff or just won’t happen, it has a surreal feel to it and should not be taken lightly. Most times we ourselves will simply see it happening right in front of our noses. We have become complacent in listening to the news media and saying to ourselves that they must of done something wrong, why else would they have 50 armed men in full tactical gear to arrest this one person and 5 black helicopters flying over head?
This makes me look back to such incidents as Waco, Ruby Ridge and wander. Not wanting to be a conspiracy theorist with regard to these two situations, but if memory serves me right the news media had already sliced and diced them to the public before the shooting started.
With every arrest of any suspected criminal we have the news media perching on the bandwagon about the virtues and need for his arrest. As I see and listen to them flap their mouths off of just how bad this guy is the last thing we hear from them is a sarcastic remark about them possibly being innocent until a court says deferent.
So why even extol the virtues of this persons arrest if you do not know his guilt nor can absolutely prove his involvement in the act you say he is? I would have to say that it boils down to a socialist view by the news media, which is to lend credence to their want for power over the tiny American slaves.
opaww
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